Ok, so for the past week or so I have been working on a new site. This will be the new home of my blog. I am working on getting all the archives over there, but that's the only place you will find new posts after this. The site is:
http://web.mac.com/tzundell/iweb
Bookmark it. Celebrate. Do a little dance.
Friday, January 20, 2006
Thursday, January 12, 2006
One MILLION Dollars
After I see a commercial a number of times, for some reason I start to notice things about the plausibility and reality of it. My latest victim is Wendy's. The have a commercial out saying that their $.99 menu will change your thinking about a dollar. It has a girl babysitting saying that she makes "6 Jr. Bacon Cheesburgers and hour" and someone equating a dollar to a small frosty.
It ends with a guy telling a woman "You look like a million chicken nuggets," meaning she looks like $1,000,000. But in my thinking, I know that there are actually 5 nuggets in their order of $.99 Chicken Nuggets. So they guy isn't actually saying she looks like $1,000,000, but rather $198,000 ($.99 * $1,000,000/ 5).
So next time your significant other says "Baby, how do I look?" Answer with a hardy "$198,000." See how he/she reacts - according to Wendy's there's no higher compliment (unless you dare to say to her/him "you look like a million Jr. Bacon Cheeseburgers." But if you say that... duck.)
It ends with a guy telling a woman "You look like a million chicken nuggets," meaning she looks like $1,000,000. But in my thinking, I know that there are actually 5 nuggets in their order of $.99 Chicken Nuggets. So they guy isn't actually saying she looks like $1,000,000, but rather $198,000 ($.99 * $1,000,000/ 5).
So next time your significant other says "Baby, how do I look?" Answer with a hardy "$198,000." See how he/she reacts - according to Wendy's there's no higher compliment (unless you dare to say to her/him "you look like a million Jr. Bacon Cheeseburgers." But if you say that... duck.)
Monday, January 09, 2006
Sugar Bowl Victory - as told through text messages (somewhat)
In order to understand the thought process of this story, you have to understand what it's been like to be a fan of WVU sports for 30 years. I can sum it up in one word: almost.
We have never been an "elite" program. Almost.... but we have not been able to put together a string of 4-5 seasons in the top 10 or top 25 in football or basketball. Until recently we have had one football coach in Don Nehlen and one basketball coach in Gale Catlett. Very good coaches over a long period of time. That said, we rarely won games we weren't supposed to. In basketball we would win a regular season game... but we would almost win more...which means we lost in heartbreaking fashion. This has been ingrained in WVU fans, and with Rich Rodriguez coming in as football coach and John Belein as basketball coach a lot of us are trying to change our thinking, but it's hard. But the key is they have. Until recently - it's "almost." Almost winners, almost great...Almost Heaven
So pessimism is the best defense. Pessimism guards WVU fans from being disappointed, because we have gotten used to it.
We start at halftime of the Sugar Bowl because that's where the story starts. WVU went up 28-0 on the University of Georgia in a game where no one gave us a chance, and UGA had closed the gap to 31-21 at the half. My younger brother, Adam, and I then had a text message conversation that lasted the rest of the game...
Adam 10:59 pm - We are going to lose
I don't think he 100% believed that statement, but was trying to keep himself and me from getting our hopes up.
Me 10:59 - I know. But I will watch anyway.
Just like WVU to keep things close enough to keep us watching
Adam 11:02 - might as well. we can't stop the pass and we can't get to the qb in time
So it stays 31-21 for almost the entire 3rd Quarter until UGA completes a 30+ yard pass for a touchdown to make it 31-28.
Adam at 11:30 - What the hell? UGa is going to win. I just wish I bet on WVU to cover.
Again, WVU hadn't done much at all in the 3rd to show that they could hold on... it's like watching someone struggling to get out of quicksand.
Me at 11:35 - Eh. I think they will win it will be OK
I am trying to hold hope... it's waning, but I have to believe
Me at 11:49 - Slippery -- not the lead, Slaton.
WVU tries to put together a drive but it ends up stalling.
Adam at 11:51 - I'm nervous
He's now fallen into hope. He doesn't want to, but he's letting it creep through
Adam 12:06 - I don't feel good about this
He's trying to counter his previous hope. We've been here before. Miami games, Viginia Tech games... other bowl games and we find a way to give it away. We can't stop UGA at this point.
Me at 12:09 - Me either. 4 yards per down... Please.
Right now, all I want is a time consuming drive to keep the ball away from UGA. Anything... WVU makes a couple of really big plays to keep a drive alive. Pat White with a huge 15 yard run on 3rd & 10 - from the WV 5. Then Steve Slaton rips an amazing 52 yard touchdown run out of nowhere.
Me at 1216 -- How do you feel?
I say this because I am soooo excited. I can't believe that run. I need someone to bring me back to earth.
Adam - 12:18 - Long way to go.
Ahhh there it is... thanks Ad.
UGA drives down and with another long pass closes the gap to 38 - 35. We get the ball back... with a little over 5 minutes left. We need to eat clock. Then we get stalled. 4th down and 6. We're about to punt to UGA with almost 2 minutes left.
Me at 12:38 - Sweet mother. I don't like it.
Here's where we punt it away, and UGA makes an incredible drive down to win the game in the final seconds. We've SEEN this before.
And then something happens... we don't punt. We fake a punt and the punter runs for a 10 yard gain, a first down and seals a WVU victory!!!
Me at 12:38 - Holy Shit
I don't believe it. I stood in awe, jaw open, and not knowing how to deal with these new feelings... a feeling of...winning
Adam at 12:40 - Legitimately, I called it.
he's saying he called the fake punt. He knew it was going to happen. No way this happened
Me at 12:40 - You called nothing
We relax now... the game is over. We have won, capping one of the most unbelievable WVU football seasons I have ever seen. A year where we were supposed to do nothing - we beat the #7 team in a BCS bowl.
Adam at 12:42 - I have witnesses
yeah right
Me at 12:44 - Sammy is not a witness
Sammy is Adam's cat. I thought Adam was at home, but he was really at a friend's. Later on a phone call, Adam said he called it by bringing up the possibility of a fake punt (like - "wouldn't it be great it they fake punted here." You'll have to decide whether or not he actually 'called' it
But that's it. That's the game via text message. One of the most amazing experiences in my WVU football memory documented by technology (I downloaded the 15 minute highlight reel from iTunes too).
On a side note - how surreal is it that the burning of furniture by students and fans to celebrate great victories is now national common knowledge?
Rodriguez and Belein are changing WVU football and basketball and in the process making believers out of every WVU fan, and making WVU fans out of the country in the process.
We have never been an "elite" program. Almost.... but we have not been able to put together a string of 4-5 seasons in the top 10 or top 25 in football or basketball. Until recently we have had one football coach in Don Nehlen and one basketball coach in Gale Catlett. Very good coaches over a long period of time. That said, we rarely won games we weren't supposed to. In basketball we would win a regular season game... but we would almost win more...which means we lost in heartbreaking fashion. This has been ingrained in WVU fans, and with Rich Rodriguez coming in as football coach and John Belein as basketball coach a lot of us are trying to change our thinking, but it's hard. But the key is they have. Until recently - it's "almost." Almost winners, almost great...Almost Heaven
So pessimism is the best defense. Pessimism guards WVU fans from being disappointed, because we have gotten used to it.
We start at halftime of the Sugar Bowl because that's where the story starts. WVU went up 28-0 on the University of Georgia in a game where no one gave us a chance, and UGA had closed the gap to 31-21 at the half. My younger brother, Adam, and I then had a text message conversation that lasted the rest of the game...
Adam 10:59 pm - We are going to lose
I don't think he 100% believed that statement, but was trying to keep himself and me from getting our hopes up.
Me 10:59 - I know. But I will watch anyway.
Just like WVU to keep things close enough to keep us watching
Adam 11:02 - might as well. we can't stop the pass and we can't get to the qb in time
So it stays 31-21 for almost the entire 3rd Quarter until UGA completes a 30+ yard pass for a touchdown to make it 31-28.
Adam at 11:30 - What the hell? UGa is going to win. I just wish I bet on WVU to cover.
Again, WVU hadn't done much at all in the 3rd to show that they could hold on... it's like watching someone struggling to get out of quicksand.
Me at 11:35 - Eh. I think they will win it will be OK
I am trying to hold hope... it's waning, but I have to believe
Me at 11:49 - Slippery -- not the lead, Slaton.
WVU tries to put together a drive but it ends up stalling.
Adam at 11:51 - I'm nervous
He's now fallen into hope. He doesn't want to, but he's letting it creep through
Adam 12:06 - I don't feel good about this
He's trying to counter his previous hope. We've been here before. Miami games, Viginia Tech games... other bowl games and we find a way to give it away. We can't stop UGA at this point.
Me at 12:09 - Me either. 4 yards per down... Please.
Right now, all I want is a time consuming drive to keep the ball away from UGA. Anything... WVU makes a couple of really big plays to keep a drive alive. Pat White with a huge 15 yard run on 3rd & 10 - from the WV 5. Then Steve Slaton rips an amazing 52 yard touchdown run out of nowhere.
Me at 1216 -- How do you feel?
I say this because I am soooo excited. I can't believe that run. I need someone to bring me back to earth.
Adam - 12:18 - Long way to go.
Ahhh there it is... thanks Ad.
UGA drives down and with another long pass closes the gap to 38 - 35. We get the ball back... with a little over 5 minutes left. We need to eat clock. Then we get stalled. 4th down and 6. We're about to punt to UGA with almost 2 minutes left.
Me at 12:38 - Sweet mother. I don't like it.
Here's where we punt it away, and UGA makes an incredible drive down to win the game in the final seconds. We've SEEN this before.
And then something happens... we don't punt. We fake a punt and the punter runs for a 10 yard gain, a first down and seals a WVU victory!!!
Me at 12:38 - Holy Shit
I don't believe it. I stood in awe, jaw open, and not knowing how to deal with these new feelings... a feeling of...winning
Adam at 12:40 - Legitimately, I called it.
he's saying he called the fake punt. He knew it was going to happen. No way this happened
Me at 12:40 - You called nothing
We relax now... the game is over. We have won, capping one of the most unbelievable WVU football seasons I have ever seen. A year where we were supposed to do nothing - we beat the #7 team in a BCS bowl.
Adam at 12:42 - I have witnesses
yeah right
Me at 12:44 - Sammy is not a witness
Sammy is Adam's cat. I thought Adam was at home, but he was really at a friend's. Later on a phone call, Adam said he called it by bringing up the possibility of a fake punt (like - "wouldn't it be great it they fake punted here." You'll have to decide whether or not he actually 'called' it
But that's it. That's the game via text message. One of the most amazing experiences in my WVU football memory documented by technology (I downloaded the 15 minute highlight reel from iTunes too).
On a side note - how surreal is it that the burning of furniture by students and fans to celebrate great victories is now national common knowledge?
Rodriguez and Belein are changing WVU football and basketball and in the process making believers out of every WVU fan, and making WVU fans out of the country in the process.
Friday, January 06, 2006
There is Justice... kind of
From AP - RICHMOND, Va. -- Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick was dismissed from the team Friday, the result of numerous legal transgressions and his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Toyota Gator Bowl....
Vick, the younger brother of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, was suspended from school in 2004 for several legal problems. The junior came under new and intense scrutiny this week after replays showed he stomped on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil during the Jan. 2 bowl.
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From TZ (that's me)
Vick stomped on someone in a game... stomped on someone. This is the same guy who has been heaped praise all freaking season. And it pissed me off. If you remember: http://tzundell.blogspot.com/2005/11/vick-against-miami-weekend.html
Here's the kicker though - he's a junior. That means he can now enter the NFL draft. Someone will take a shot on him. No, he's not a first rounder (with his problems) but someone took a chance on Maurice Clarett, and someone will take a chance on him. Which means that regardless he will make more money in 1 year that I have in my lifetime.
But at the same point Virginia Tech did something. Virginia Tech NEVER does something... but in light of the media scrutiny they may have succumbed. Here's my theory though - Vick was going to turn pro anyway.
He was going to turn pro and Virginia Tech pretended like the big, bad institution and saved face publicly. I have zero evidence to back that up, so it's really nothing but speculation...but I wouldn't be surprised.
But it's enough for me that he is now seen in the proper light - a criminal, a vicious person. But that is Virginia Tech football - they just got caught this time and pushed a sacrificial lamb off the bridge.
Vick, the younger brother of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, was suspended from school in 2004 for several legal problems. The junior came under new and intense scrutiny this week after replays showed he stomped on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil during the Jan. 2 bowl.
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From TZ (that's me)
Vick stomped on someone in a game... stomped on someone. This is the same guy who has been heaped praise all freaking season. And it pissed me off. If you remember: http://tzundell.blogspot.com/2005/11/vick-against-miami-weekend.html
Here's the kicker though - he's a junior. That means he can now enter the NFL draft. Someone will take a shot on him. No, he's not a first rounder (with his problems) but someone took a chance on Maurice Clarett, and someone will take a chance on him. Which means that regardless he will make more money in 1 year that I have in my lifetime.
But at the same point Virginia Tech did something. Virginia Tech NEVER does something... but in light of the media scrutiny they may have succumbed. Here's my theory though - Vick was going to turn pro anyway.
He was going to turn pro and Virginia Tech pretended like the big, bad institution and saved face publicly. I have zero evidence to back that up, so it's really nothing but speculation...but I wouldn't be surprised.
But it's enough for me that he is now seen in the proper light - a criminal, a vicious person. But that is Virginia Tech football - they just got caught this time and pushed a sacrificial lamb off the bridge.
Thursday, January 05, 2006
Pick these
Ok, now that the Pick 'em Football League is over (a bunch of pick NFL games week to week for... uh...fun). I thought I would pick the playoffs...uh...for fun. Okay if nothing else, it's a ready-made blog topic, and after 3 nights of staying up past 1:00am courtesy of the BCS - I figure I didn't want to search too hard for one. Oh, and my picks are straight head-up, no spread used.
And just for kicks I will pay tribute to ESPN's love-fest for USC (who lost to Texas last night) and predict the outcome of USC vs. my NFL pick just as ESPN would have last week.
Saturday Games:
Washington at Tampa Bay - Chis Simms is the Steve Sanders (90210) of the NFL. Blonde rich kid who everyone knows because he has a famous parent, and while he enjoyed it at first, he's struggling to get out of his dad's shadow. Over the past few weeks he has played pretty well and with Cadillac Williams getting his second wind of the season, and they are at home they should prove as a tough team to beat. Except I get the feeling that Tampa has simply over achieved this year.
Washington has Joe Gibbs (Hall of Fame coach), Mark Brunell (veteran, time-tested QB) Clinton Portis and Santana Moss. Not to mention (until he signed an extension earlier this week) one of the most sought after Defensive Coordinators for a Head Coaching position in Gregg Williams. Steve Sanders was a lovable loser too - pick = Washington
USC vs Washington - USC - 457 Washington 7
Jacksonville at New England - Shhhhh - Jacksonville has the best record of any Wild Card Team. They would have won the division if Indy hadn't been around to almost go undefeated this year. And they have done it with no notice, and no fan fare. So it's completely in the cards that they can knock off the defending champs. The thing that concerns me is Byron Leftwich has been out a few games, and will return in this one without any work last week to find his groove.
So the question is, can Jacksonville hold off New England? New England finished the season winning 4 of 5. But they beat the Jets, Bills, and Jets again with Tampa Bay in there - not exactly the cream of the crop. The truth is New England seems to be the "Cosby Show" once they brought in Olivia to be the cute kid (instead of Rudy) and Cousin Pam to fill in the Vanessa spot. Still good at times, but nothing what it once was, and obviously on the decline. Bill Cosby always seemed to work hard to keep that show on top. Just as Tom Brady has worked harder this season than any other to get the Pat in the playoffs. But in the past, Jacksonville has tamed the vaunted Indy offense.
You just can't give me Olivia and say it's the same as Rudy... I don't know what that means. Pick = Jacksonville
USC with each player having one hand tied behind their back vs. Jacksonville - USC - 388 Jacksonville - 24
Sunday
Carolina at NY Giants - Eli Manning started off hot then got cold. Carolina started off hot, cooled off, and are supposedly hot again. I've made it perfectly clear as to my feelings on Eli Manning (here: http://tzundell.blogspot.com/2005/09/me-no-wanna-play.html ) and I would like nothing more than for them to get crushed like little ants that build an ant hill on a land mine... but I have to pick with a clear and objective head. This game is probably going to come down to defense more than the QB play.
The Panthers have to stop Tiki Barber (my favorite player named after a type of bar) who is having a career year averaging 5.2 yards a carry and having a handful of 200 yards games this season. The Giants have to stop DeShaun Foster who wrestled the starting job away from Stephen Davis. Carolina's D is simply geared more towards stopping the run than the Giant D is. The Giants have great pass rushing ends, and a decent defensive backfield.
Pick = Carolina
USC blindfolded vs. Carolina - USC 667 Carolina - 2
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati - And the best is saved for last. I think this will be the best game of the weekend. Here's how I see it - the Chicago Bulls had the Detroit Pistons, the Indianapolis Colts had the New England Patriots, and the Cincinnati Bengals have the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Bengals have to overcome the Steelers to go to the next level even though they won the division they split the season series with the Steelers in unconvincing fashion. The Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger missed a few games and that contributed to them not winning the division.
Since this is a blog of analogies - the Steelers are the daddy at this point and the Bengals are the son. There are a few years when they play on the basketball and the dad beats the son consistently. Then there is the year where things change and the son wins his first game.
That game where the son takes over the father is a year or so away. The Bengals have the offense but don't have the defense quite yet. Plus they don't have the playoff experience. The Steelers seem to have success at home during the regular season and on the road in the playoffs. Well, they are on the road throughout the playoffs... and this one. Pick = Steelers
USC using only Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, and Lindell White for offense and defense vs Steelers - USC 2978 Pittsburgh 24... in a nail biter.
So there you have it... right or wrong (history says "wrong") those are my thoughts and picks for this weekend, and for the hypothetical USC vs. NFL Playoff team matchups. Have a fantastic weekend!
And just for kicks I will pay tribute to ESPN's love-fest for USC (who lost to Texas last night) and predict the outcome of USC vs. my NFL pick just as ESPN would have last week.
Saturday Games:
Washington at Tampa Bay - Chis Simms is the Steve Sanders (90210) of the NFL. Blonde rich kid who everyone knows because he has a famous parent, and while he enjoyed it at first, he's struggling to get out of his dad's shadow. Over the past few weeks he has played pretty well and with Cadillac Williams getting his second wind of the season, and they are at home they should prove as a tough team to beat. Except I get the feeling that Tampa has simply over achieved this year.
Washington has Joe Gibbs (Hall of Fame coach), Mark Brunell (veteran, time-tested QB) Clinton Portis and Santana Moss. Not to mention (until he signed an extension earlier this week) one of the most sought after Defensive Coordinators for a Head Coaching position in Gregg Williams. Steve Sanders was a lovable loser too - pick = Washington
USC vs Washington - USC - 457 Washington 7
Jacksonville at New England - Shhhhh - Jacksonville has the best record of any Wild Card Team. They would have won the division if Indy hadn't been around to almost go undefeated this year. And they have done it with no notice, and no fan fare. So it's completely in the cards that they can knock off the defending champs. The thing that concerns me is Byron Leftwich has been out a few games, and will return in this one without any work last week to find his groove.
So the question is, can Jacksonville hold off New England? New England finished the season winning 4 of 5. But they beat the Jets, Bills, and Jets again with Tampa Bay in there - not exactly the cream of the crop. The truth is New England seems to be the "Cosby Show" once they brought in Olivia to be the cute kid (instead of Rudy) and Cousin Pam to fill in the Vanessa spot. Still good at times, but nothing what it once was, and obviously on the decline. Bill Cosby always seemed to work hard to keep that show on top. Just as Tom Brady has worked harder this season than any other to get the Pat in the playoffs. But in the past, Jacksonville has tamed the vaunted Indy offense.
You just can't give me Olivia and say it's the same as Rudy... I don't know what that means. Pick = Jacksonville
USC with each player having one hand tied behind their back vs. Jacksonville - USC - 388 Jacksonville - 24
Sunday
Carolina at NY Giants - Eli Manning started off hot then got cold. Carolina started off hot, cooled off, and are supposedly hot again. I've made it perfectly clear as to my feelings on Eli Manning (here: http://tzundell.blogspot.com/2005/09/me-no-wanna-play.html ) and I would like nothing more than for them to get crushed like little ants that build an ant hill on a land mine... but I have to pick with a clear and objective head. This game is probably going to come down to defense more than the QB play.
The Panthers have to stop Tiki Barber (my favorite player named after a type of bar) who is having a career year averaging 5.2 yards a carry and having a handful of 200 yards games this season. The Giants have to stop DeShaun Foster who wrestled the starting job away from Stephen Davis. Carolina's D is simply geared more towards stopping the run than the Giant D is. The Giants have great pass rushing ends, and a decent defensive backfield.
Pick = Carolina
USC blindfolded vs. Carolina - USC 667 Carolina - 2
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati - And the best is saved for last. I think this will be the best game of the weekend. Here's how I see it - the Chicago Bulls had the Detroit Pistons, the Indianapolis Colts had the New England Patriots, and the Cincinnati Bengals have the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Bengals have to overcome the Steelers to go to the next level even though they won the division they split the season series with the Steelers in unconvincing fashion. The Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger missed a few games and that contributed to them not winning the division.
Since this is a blog of analogies - the Steelers are the daddy at this point and the Bengals are the son. There are a few years when they play on the basketball and the dad beats the son consistently. Then there is the year where things change and the son wins his first game.
That game where the son takes over the father is a year or so away. The Bengals have the offense but don't have the defense quite yet. Plus they don't have the playoff experience. The Steelers seem to have success at home during the regular season and on the road in the playoffs. Well, they are on the road throughout the playoffs... and this one. Pick = Steelers
USC using only Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, and Lindell White for offense and defense vs Steelers - USC 2978 Pittsburgh 24... in a nail biter.
So there you have it... right or wrong (history says "wrong") those are my thoughts and picks for this weekend, and for the hypothetical USC vs. NFL Playoff team matchups. Have a fantastic weekend!
Monday, January 02, 2006
To the max...
You have to love the opportunistic ways of the world. Who am I to begrudge anyone the opportunity to make a buck?
Caught a radio commercial this morning for something called "Height Max." You knew it was going to happen. Diet pills make you smaller, there's a cream for women to enlarge their breasts, pills and pumps for men's penises, age reducers, hair growers, hair removers, and on and on. Now they have something to "maximize your growth potential." In the commercial it gives instruction on this. All you have to do is take it (or give it to your child) between the ages of 12-25, and, apparently, they will grow the tallest person they could possibly be.
First off, I didn't know if you knew this or not, but people in general experience their most growth between the ages of 12-25. So, if little Suzy grows an inch between 12-13 then it's probably not the miracle "Height Max" that did it. I understand that they are not saying that it makes you grow - but it will "maximize" you growth. Suzy may have only grown 3/4 of an inch if it hadn't been for Height Max. How are you supposed to know? How can you tell that it increased anything? I mean with hair growers, and other enlargers, you would see a difference, but there is no comparative.
So the company that makes "Height Max" has basically 2 types of customers. Those who are morons - "Hey, Francine! Come look at Junior! He's growin' like a weed! Thank goodness. With me bein' 6'6" an' you being 6'1", he would have felt bad if he'd ended up being teeny. Yay for Height Max!"
Then you have the customer segment of people who simply think "what could it hurt? You take the stuff, and if it works then you have maximized your growth potential. If it doesn't work then you haven't really lost anything." (except your money).
Caught a radio commercial this morning for something called "Height Max." You knew it was going to happen. Diet pills make you smaller, there's a cream for women to enlarge their breasts, pills and pumps for men's penises, age reducers, hair growers, hair removers, and on and on. Now they have something to "maximize your growth potential." In the commercial it gives instruction on this. All you have to do is take it (or give it to your child) between the ages of 12-25, and, apparently, they will grow the tallest person they could possibly be.
First off, I didn't know if you knew this or not, but people in general experience their most growth between the ages of 12-25. So, if little Suzy grows an inch between 12-13 then it's probably not the miracle "Height Max" that did it. I understand that they are not saying that it makes you grow - but it will "maximize" you growth. Suzy may have only grown 3/4 of an inch if it hadn't been for Height Max. How are you supposed to know? How can you tell that it increased anything? I mean with hair growers, and other enlargers, you would see a difference, but there is no comparative.
So the company that makes "Height Max" has basically 2 types of customers. Those who are morons - "Hey, Francine! Come look at Junior! He's growin' like a weed! Thank goodness. With me bein' 6'6" an' you being 6'1", he would have felt bad if he'd ended up being teeny. Yay for Height Max!"
Then you have the customer segment of people who simply think "what could it hurt? You take the stuff, and if it works then you have maximized your growth potential. If it doesn't work then you haven't really lost anything." (except your money).
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